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Idris
06-09-2004, 11:36 PM
Stuck in North Eastern Pennsylvania for the summer, far from my beloved Chamonix I felt the need to skiing on my day off – knowing that soon as summer camp really starts time off will be in short supply. The nearest snow to me is some 430 long miles away.
After a long drive, not wanting to hike for three hours to ski Tuckerman’s Ravine as I did last year, I opted for the lazy drive up the ‘auto road’.
http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic24861.jpg

On my way up I spied a snow Patch on neighboring Mt Jefferson. But nearing the summit I noticed snow patches in some of the gullies of the ‘Great Gulf’ My first conquest of the day.

http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic24860.jpg

A five minute walk from the car took me to the top of the most snow filled gully. To my disappointment, not much snow. I was there anyway so may as well ski it. 12 very tight turns down a 10ft wide 50 degree slope with a 1000ft boulder field below!
Scrambling back up I almost put my crampons on. Ok I was only climbing 30 feet or so, but slush on ice between rock walls is just not nice.

http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic24858.jpg

Back at the top my attention turned to the snow patch over on Jefferson. By looking at the hills the distance to the next peak would be a long way in the alps, but in north Wales it would be half an hour or so. These mountains look like Snowdonia, just a little bigger. Off I headed. An hour and a half later I was stood on the shoulder and the snow patch must have been 200ft beyond some low bushes…..an hour later I staggered out onto the snow. The toughest bush bashing I’ve ever done. Clothes torn, clips on my boots bent and my poles and my Ice Axe dropped somewhere :(
The snow patch itself wasn’t that long but at lest it was wide, wide enough for a few sweeping carves.

http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic24859.jpg

http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic24863.jpg

My hike back to Mt Washington was through its infamous changeable weather. Hot sunshine, biting cold wind, some rain and plenty of moving clouds.
Just before reaching the summit I passed the Cog railway a strange affair. Despite being some 150 years old it sill rattles its way to the summit on wooden trestles.

http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic24862.jpg

Unfortunately it looks like I won’t be skiing snow again for a few months.

Skilasnow
06-09-2004, 11:55 PM
Excellent TR! I might just have to trek over to that patch on Monday.... hmmm

skibum12583
06-10-2004, 01:00 AM
An hour and a half later I was stood on the shoulder and the snow patch must have been 200ft beyond some low bushes…..an hour later I staggered out onto the snow. The toughest bush bashing I’ve ever done. Clothes torn, clips on my boots bent and my poles and my Ice Axe dropped somewhere :(
The snow patch itself wasn’t that long but at lest it was wide, wide enough for a few sweeping carves.


Idris, awesome TR! Thanks a million for the pix. At least someone has the right idea. A TR just doesnt quite cut it without pix. How hairy would you say the gullies were? :skierpetrified: (Airplane?) Relative steepness compared to something in Tux? And the hike over Mt. Clay, was it very bad, with alot of ups and downs? I am asking because it is very hard to tell by the map. Overall, do you think that the bushwhack to the jefferson snowfield was worth it :badwords: ? on your way back to the trail did you spy any easier way out than the way you came it? I am planning to do what you just did this coming weekend, so I was wondering if its even worth the hike over at this point. I hope you get this before you get shipped off to your camp!
~Les

M@
06-10-2004, 08:01 AM
MMMmmm... fresh Jefferson. Nice TR! Excellent pix. It's somehow comforting to know there is snow only a few hours away.

What day was this on?

M@

DMC
06-10-2004, 08:58 AM
Great report...
I would just add that as far as "bushwacking" goes - if possible - it's best to stay on the marked trails in the fragile alpine... I've been guilty of cutting from the tops of gullys to paths - so I'm kinda being a hypocrit... But only where there's no vegitation - like the Alpine Garden... I still feel guilty stepping on moss and lichens on rocks though...

I know... I'm a freak...

Affix Snow
06-10-2004, 09:07 AM
Great TR!
YES!!!! NORTH WALES!!!!!!SNOWDONIA!!!!!!
Ive hikied there too! Awesome!
Ironically, i live in North Wales, Pennsylvania.

Great Pics! Glad to see you got some turns.
PA kinda sucks when it comes to summer snow...or any snow.

RR
06-10-2004, 09:31 AM
Way :cooldog: !

DMC
06-10-2004, 09:36 AM
Good example of the diagonal ski holding on the pack..
I know lots of people doing that now...

Jolly J
06-10-2004, 01:12 PM
I was at Attitash Mountain Biking on Mem Day. Looking from Attitash on the backside of Mount Washington over to the left there was a significant chunk of snow. I haven't checked my map yet but it looked much bigger than anything else we saw while down there. Unfortunately I don't have any pics. :(

We planned on skiing on Tuesday but got scared away by "Rain at times heavy".

Idris
06-10-2004, 06:37 PM
Skibum12583 - Gully was about the same steepness as the headwall...its only got 30ft of snow in it though...BUshwack to Jefferson could have been avoided by going over first then down, rather than trying to skirt directly to it. - Allready at camp, just escaped for sunday!

pepperdawg
06-10-2004, 07:21 PM
Great Report - Working late - reading that was just what I needed.

Great PIx too.....

Thanks

skibum12583
06-10-2004, 08:49 PM
Idris, thanx for the info and the pictures. When I come back I'll definitely post any good shots I took and ill also put up some pix from my trip last year on June 4-6 (BIG snow difference).


I was at Attitash Mountain Biking on Mem Day. Looking from Attitash on the backside of Mount Washington over to the left there was a significant chunk of snow. I haven't checked my map yet but it looked much bigger than anything else we saw while down there. Unfortunately I don't have any pics. :(

Jolly J, you mean the west side of Mt. Whasy or where? So I know where to look. I don't know if anyone would know anything about this patch, or if you can even see this from Attitash, but look in the lower left hand corner of this picture. The river bed coming down on the west side of the mountain looks like it holds snow at least pretty late, even tho this pic is from mid/late may (17th)

here is the link:
http://www.mountwashington.org/photojournal/2004/hi-res/2004_05_17.jpg

or if that doesnt work try this one, and scroll down to "view from just below Mt Monroe" May 17th.
http://www.mountwashington.org/photojournal/2004/05.php

Let me know what you think or if anyone else has any ideas of what snowpatch he saw. I am also thinking this might be the snow patch that sits up by the dry river trail just to the east of the lakes of the clouds hut, but who knows. That gully seems to hold snow until pretty late (not double barrel, I dont think, but main gully I guess? [goodman's book]) Hopefully I'll be able to find something of halfway decent length to ski :confused:. Im sure tucks wont let me down (all the way at least).

~Les

BladeGirl
06-11-2004, 09:35 AM
Idris,

I saw your photos had a "biglines.com" marking in the corner. Is that your web site? Its quite involved!

-BG