View Full Version : Kickwax on skins...problem?
03-06-2007, 08:11 PM
Had to use a lot of red kickwax Saturday approaching Bruce Trail through Stowe XC center, as kicker skins are just too slow in the flats (AT gear). Put on climbing skins before scraping off kickwax. Red wax is very sticky and difficult to deal with, and now I've got a good amount of it on top of the adhesive. Does that make it a welcome addition to the bottom of the skins? Or, should it be removed, and if so how?
The skins didn't fail that day, as they did on a colder day in the Adirondacks with NO kickwax on them. Really could have used it that day, though. Wax is a MUST for Mt. Marcy...too many ups on the way down.
Somebody must have some experience with this issue. Maybe I found a cheaper solution than that can of Ascension Gold?
03-07-2007, 11:15 AM
I've run into the same problem last spring and still am trying to figure out the best solution...
03-07-2007, 05:33 PM
Iron on low and, paper bags... Might take some of the glue of too but it'll better than before.
03-08-2007, 10:09 AM
1. Red bubblegum is my least favorite wax. Klister is far superior. I'll admit red has its place, but it's an awful nightmare if you ask me. This from a dedicated waxer.
2. "Put on climbing skins before scraping off kickwax." Whoops. It works a whole lot better if you don't do that, especially with bubblegum. You can get away with it with the colder hard waxes (white, green) with fewer problems, especially if you've buffed the wax in really well with cork or mileage. The problem is that the red wax can lead to worse bonding of your skin glue to your bases. (Although perhaps the wax helps keep the skin glue from getting wet?)
3. As Justin says, kraft paper and low iron to remove anything from skins. I wouldn't get neurotic about it though, especially if the glue is still functional. If you're like me, by this time of year your skin glue has picked up a fair bit of spruce and hemlock needles around the edges. Skin glue is generally robust enough to lose a good bit of adhesion without losing function.
4. I'm stubborn. I love wax. Skins have their place -- especially on heavy skis, you can plow your way up decently steep pitches -- but I find with light skis, the right technique helps me wax up pitches almost as steep. (Technique includes covering the whole base in kick wax. My wax pockets are 180cm long on single camber skis.) For rolling NE BC, I'm a waxer first and foremost.
03-08-2007, 11:17 AM
WAX ON DUDE! :D
I used to wax for alpine racing and now learning the ropes for kick. The better I'm getting, the more I like it!
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