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Cog Parking!
If everything lines up in my world I plan to do some westside schussing on Sunday.
According to the Mt Washington Cog Railroad people they will be running trains this weekend at 9 and 2 going part way up the Mountain. I asked and they won't take skiers and you can't get off the train.
I would hope skiers won't be taking those prime parking spots away from paying customers as that would certainly cause conflict and get us kicked out. Where do you think it's going to be safe to park? Any other good alternative access points you would care to share?
I can see the S*i* "merde" hit the fan when some dumb ass (could be a local) gets up early and parks front and center and the lot starts to fill before their paying customers come.
Since many of you guys have been skiing the Westside for so long I hope you have some sage advice.
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04-29-2010, 09:40 AM
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Seriously, I doubt the parking lot will be overrun with Cog riders. Just park farther down - there's enough parking there for a thousand cars! And be nice to the tourons!
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04-29-2010, 09:44 AM
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There is some sort of understanding between the WMNF and the Cog about the lots, but once they are running trains that goes out of the picture.
Sorry to say, if the hiker lot is open, that's where we have to park if we want to keep good relations with the good folks at the Cog Railway.
They have been rather friendly, all things considered. It would be a shame to stress their goodwill on general principles as well as unwise to risk access in particular by any sort of pushiness on our part.
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.. And be nice to the tourons!
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x2! Smile and look professional. It will make them feel good to meet a real Mountaineer
Boardman is probably right about parking in the lowest lot, or at the back row of the next to lowest lot.
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04-29-2010, 09:47 AM
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Rob, where is the "hiker lot"? I've never gone hiking up there; only been coggin' before it's been open.
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04-29-2010, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by boardman
Rob, where is the "hiker lot"? I've never gone hiking up there; only been coggin' before it's been open.
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Sorry to say...it's a half mile down the road! The Ammo trail was extended to it. It's reached via the first junction on the Ammo. There's probably some snow on it now and for a week, but a half a mile on either end of a big day is a tough mile, no matter how you do it.
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04-29-2010, 10:29 AM
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With the new snow, i wonder if they will actually open this weekend. Undoubtedly they could if they wanted. And that forrest service lot may not be plowed.
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04-29-2010, 11:26 AM
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Cog-cern over parking..
It's probably too early in season( not many vacationers!) for them to get near even half full with paying customers...so I don' think It's a real concern right now. Is there a sign(uh-oh..) requesting people not taking train , but day hiking only, to park in an alternative lot?
Cog management needs to make this clear(If there presently is nothing posted)- if that's an issue with them(?). I'm happy to follow the rules, as long as I know what they are.
But at least the thread here shows concern for courtesy. Gracias!
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04-29-2010, 11:40 AM
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The times I have been there when the cog is running, they were collecting $5 from hikers and having us park in the lowest lot on the right. Doubt they'd be collecting $ this early, but if we parked at the bottom that would be about right. We just have to give up our instinctual preference for the alpha parking spot and walk a few steps more. The courtesy would keep us welcome.
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04-29-2010, 12:15 PM
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Surprised...
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The times I have been there when the cog is running, they were collecting $5 from hikers
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What?
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04-29-2010, 12:18 PM
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That was more high season, late June/July as I remember.
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04-29-2010, 04:36 PM
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Thanks for posting! Hoping to get up there this w/e, so we want to be sure to pay attention to this.
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04-29-2010, 05:40 PM
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It's their parking lot. I ain't surprised.
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04-29-2010, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bristlecone
The times I have been there when the cog is running, they were collecting $5 from hikers and having us park in the lowest lot on the right. Doubt they'd be collecting $ this early, but if we parked at the bottom that would be about right. We just have to give up our instinctual preference for the alpha parking spot and walk a few steps more. The courtesy would keep us welcome.
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That is my understanding as well. Honestly, they could probably be charging skiers all the time. I bet they could pull in a really good profit for access to their property during prime spring skiing season, especially on good weekends. I hope if/when they start charging, that skiers pony up, park in the lower lot, and say "THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!" And mean it, too. Better than having to hike in from the ART parking lot.
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04-29-2010, 06:04 PM
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Or, just get there real early, before they can hit ya up for $$
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04-29-2010, 09:14 PM
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Ever since "the" storm the cog lot has been off the hook at times with people overnighting in their cars, apres big-day festivities, etc. Much more so than years past. It's been a blast, but I've been wondering if cog management is getting nervous. Once the west side season winds down I'm of half a mind to contact them and discuss the situation. If access to that lot was ever jeopardized due to the perception of increased liability or who knows what we would all be seriously SOL. At the very least it seems like a reasonable diplomacy.
Do any of you have experience with cog management that suggests this is a good or bad idea?
Thanks,
lurker guy bob.
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