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Old 05-14-2004, 03:47 PM
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Scarpa Lasers on sale at BD

Now is the time to be looking and buying all that ski gear that you wanted. Decent deal on the bd website for laser AT boots and they have the "normal" sizes.

http://www.bdel.com/php/specials.php...country&id=168
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:51 PM
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My wish list:

BD Whippet
Crampons(need some help finding the right ones for my AT boots, any suggestions?)
Another freeride binding
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Old 05-14-2004, 04:29 PM
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Alright!

I just picked up the Lowa Struktura AT boot at Sierra Trading for $180 for my backcountry snowboarding (for use with plate bindings):

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/xq/...qx/product.htm

My plan this upcoming year is to use this boot with with approach skis and get step-in crampons as well, maybe add on a split board next year.

Sierra still have a range of sizes available in this Lowa, and a lot of different Tele boots. There is a "Light" version of the Struktura boot available at other websites (with the new thermofit liner that saves 1.5 lbs or so per boot, what's a 16 ounce beer weigh?) for a chunk more change than the basic model that I ordered, which is the one that was used to ski down Everest in 2000.

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That sounds like a plan, I have been thinking about a split board as well. I just want to ride one before I buy one. From what I have heard they ride alittle different, more flexi but not like a jib board. The flex is along the split and the transition from edge to edge is odd. This is also coming from the most picky person I know so it maybe not as bad as he made it out to be. Maybe we will luck out and Burton will have theirs at a demo day.
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That sounds like a plan, I have been thinking about a split board as well.
Before I made a decision about the AT boots I spent a number of hours combing through FAQs for guide services in the Sierras, Jackson Hole and the Selkirk range in BC, and discussion groups like "Telemark Tips" where serious bc riders labor the fine points of style regarding approach and downhill riding. What I gleaned from all of this lit was something like this:

a. The battle between soft-boot "feel" and back country readiness rages on. The serious guide services discourage or forbid soft-boots/straps, are *somewhat* accepting of clickers with the full array of compatible approach tools, and recommend hard boots/plates with split boards or regular boards with approach skis. Their issue with soft boots is about soggy linings after days of hiking, compatibility with crampons, and ability to kick-step the steeps (a current T4T theme). Nevertheless, one guide service had to admit that a couple of their snowboard guides still ride soft boots.

b. Split boarding is great for most everything up/down *but* steep, narrow, icy, technical terrain (isn't a lot of of N.E. bc riding just that?). Some guide services recommend having split *and* regular board for the range of conditions based on weather/snowpack changes.

c. Some bc riders in really deep powder (Utah) prefer mountaineering boots with plate bindings, but when things are steep and sketchy, the mountaineering boots need straps and high-backs to have control, and even then the low liners can be a problem.

d. AT boots were most criticized for lack of surf feel in powder, weight (typically 8 to 10 lbs) and tendency to "over-steer", but some riders claim that a relaxed riding style can compensate for the stiffness of the set-up. The new "thermafit" liners are saving a pound or more, but at an additional premium of $100 or so.

e. It is expensive and time-consuming to explore all of the choices in the flesh; discussion groups are *good*.

f. Nobody talks about Sorrels any more (even in Utah). Dang!

I saw a few posts from Tommy T. in these discussions, I think in Telemark Tips. He uses his full name there, posting with the same flair and incisiveness.

I'll be breaking in my new AT set-up in the resorts early-season next year, and am really forward to trying out Big Jay, the Sherburne Trail and others during the winter before testing the headwall at Tux again in the spring.

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Thanks for the pointer. Unfortunately, the women's Scarpa T2 boots I've been eyeing are still full price. Still, a girl can dream...

Steve, I love my Sorrels (warm winter boots). But are they even called Sorrels anymore since they were taken over by Columbia (I think) a few years back?

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But are they even called Sorrels anymore since they were taken over by Columbia (I think) a few years back?-BG
Yes, Sorrels are no more. Now, "Bugaboos" or somesuch. When I went to the Winter Park ski museum in Park City I saw a 1975+/- video of Dtimitri Milosovich (sp?, who founded Winterstick and made the first swallowtail snowboads) surfing deep powder at Snowbird. He was wearing Sorrels and a neoprene strap binding. Not much control, but he sure was cool.

BTW I saw a 2002/03 Scarpa T2 for less than $200:
http://telemarkski.com/shopsite_sc/s...2woman_02.html
Newer model is more money at that site.

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Grivel G12

They work with my Alpine boots fine. The step in rear heel rocks. The strap is just a safety leash. The G10 s might be the deal if you don't have the heel "notch".
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You really did your home work on this matter, thanks for posting your findings. It almost seems that there is no perfect set up and every options has its drawbacks.
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BTW I saw a 2002/03 Scarpa T2 for less than $200:
http://telemarkski.com/shopsite_sc/s...2woman_02.html
Newer model is more money at that site.

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I had already found this listing (and every other one too, I believe). Sizes available "5 and 5.5" are too small for me. Thank you for the pointer, though!

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Old 05-17-2004, 09:02 AM
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NH,
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Grivel G12

They work with my Alpine boots fine. The step in rear heel rocks. The strap is just a safety leash. The G10 s might be the deal if you don't have the heel "notch".
Castlerock,

Thanks, deciding between the Grivel G12 and the BD Sabretooth.
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BG and other tele skiers:

If you are going to buy new Scarpas (suppose this goes for AT as well), buy now! Even if you have to buy list price, due to manufacturer cost revaluation, the prices are jumping by over $100 for the same product next season.

I'd also suggest getting your boot fitted by a pro. I never thought I'd say that until I had mine sized the right way, and it made a big difference -- plus you can support local business.
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I had already found this listing (and every other one too, I believe). Sizes available "5 and 5.5" are too small for me. Thank you for the pointer, though! -BG
Oopsie! Thought I saw more sizes there - I mean, who wears size 5 telemark boots anyway!

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