Tuckerman Ravine Message Board
Tips from those who have lived the Tuckerman experience. Offer your own ideas on packing skis, what to bring, where to stay, skiing in the bowl, or anything else that others may be interested in.
Hello fellow Tuck's addicts. I have been doing an annual weekend at
Hermit Lake Shelter for about 5 years. I believe I also was there
in past lives, but that's another story.
I grew up on Cape Cod watching mostly ocean storms, I dreamed of
seeing mountain storms. I became a weather nut, with dreams of
visiting the 'home of the world's worst weather'. Now my dreams
are real life. I am a meteorologist who loves to ski. I get to all
the New England mountains, including Mt.Washington. I am a three
season camper; Fall, Winter, and Spring. I chase bad weather. So far
I have not run into too bad weather. I have turned back a few times.
I like a thrill, but I like my life too.
Anyhow, here's my deal. I would like to be a source of weather
forecasts for anyone in need of Weather Updates. I work at New England
Cable News and UPN 38 Prime News at Ten, both in Boston. We at NECN
now have a site on AOL. If you have AOL, please visit our weather
message boards. I have a skiing message board, I'd love to get
a forum going. To get there, in AOL, type keyword NECN. Go into
weather, click on 'Be a weather watcher', check it out. I'll be at
Tucks the last weekend of April. For now (4/4) it is very wintry
up there. It's high avalanch danger to at least 4/10 or so. *Thermo*
I have been to Tuckermans twice. Both times about mid to late April
and both times I wish I had crampons to use on the trail up to the
bottom of the ravine. Although there was hardly any snow off the
trail, the trail itself became hardpack and ice from all the traffic.
In fact, on my first trip my friend and I carried down some girl's
equipment while her friends carried her down. She had slipped on the
trail and badly hurt her ankle. Imagine skiing Tuckermans all day
injury free to wind up hurting yourself on the walk back to the car.
I love Tucks but a first aid kit is a necessity. I went two years ago in late June and banged my head into the lunch rocks... I wouldn't suggest going that late, the snow was crummy and there wasn't more than a few turns (it WAS snow however :-)). In any event, I am glad we had a kit because I got a concussion and a cut that needed 6 stitches to close. The AMC guy on the scene was very competant and helpful. A good kit of bandages, etc. should only weigh a couple of ounces and is well worth it. Oh yeah, double-check your bindings, too... mine popped on my first turn cause the slide into the rocks.
I would appreciate any new comers to the Ravine to pay attention, those of you who have skied there before, you can join in as well.
When planning your fist assent to the peak of Mt. Washington, please always remember to bring only the essentials. Meaning you're going to have one heck of a long walk if your pack is weighed down with useless gear. Pack some extra clothing, layers are prefered. Bring about one to one and a half litres of fluids(no soda), enough food to last the day, and perhaps extra in case of a worse case scenario. Dress in layers, this is a must, you will sweat, especialy if you're trying to make it up in record time. If you plan on staying the night please make arrangements in advance. Please don't forget your skis at home. Bring a friend or two or a dozen.
All you experienced skiers, bring your first aid gear cause I know most of you like to ski Tuck's hard. Don't forget your camera like you or someone you know did the first time.
Give me a shout I'd love to chat e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
address:21 Slipp Mazerolle, NB, E3E 2A
My great experience!
Although one of the easiest mountains I've skied at I had many great times, one being when I hit that cliff and did a back flip while my friends watched in awe. All the skiers I encountered were extremely nice but none were nearly as good as I when it came to sking. All the men up there did n't stand a chance against me when it came to the women up there. My friend Trevor Tomasino also a very good skier. Him and I go to all the mountains together. Such as the time we went to the Chamonix Mts. which are located in the Alps. We had a marvalous time. Now I know this board is for Tuckermans ravine so I'll tell you everything that happened to us this past spring. After our trip to Jackson Hole, Wyoming, we decided to come here (Tuck's). It was great The snow was great, the weather was unbeatable and the terrain was much different from the Bigger mountains. The AMC does an excellent job maintaining this area, considering they don't get much money. Thank-you
Follow Me Down and try to keep up
Should be a good year for a Tuckermans trip. Watch the weather close and try to pick a mid-week date when the weather forcast is perfect for 3 or 4 days straight. The will be your best insurance due to the weather variances at Mt. Washington. We always start our hike out of HO JO's up Hilman's. Saves hiking on rock up to the headwall. A warm up run on the top part of Hilman's. Hike back up, then a couple of runs on the top part of Dodge's Drop. There is a wicked shot to the skier's right from Dodge's. Don't ski to low just hit the top parts. Hike back up, ski traverse over to the top of Left Gully. Bang off another run. Hit Lunch Rocks for a picnic. Back up the Headwall. Do the Chute. Hike bask up the Chute, do Chute Variation. Are we having fun yet. Break time. Any energy left? Anybody for Right Gully? What a day. Maximum vertical, hit the steeps, wow. One neat useful trick for the ski hike up, is to tie off the tips of your skiis to a belt or fanny pack and tail drag you skiis when heading up. Keeps your hands free for climbing, better for balance, saves the shoulder. If you see some guys dragging their skiis form their waist, there from northern Vermont and are probably cooler than you are, just kidding. Have fun and always keep your eyes out for falling ice.
Where do you people get off climbing pathetic
little ravines? Don't you know you could run into
vicious squirrels on the trees nearby? I suggest
sticking to climbing some nice stairs, or perhaps
a ladder every now and then. Leave the ravines
alone. Oh, and to any ORV freaks, quit destroying
fields. It's extremely annoying to hear that buzzing
in the distance, just as annoying to hear people on
jetskis whose jetskis sound like cows giving birth
Ryan, in view of today's weather report, I would consider brigning a pair of warm mittens ;).
Date: Friday, March 13, 1998.
Time: 09:30 AM
The Mt Washington Observatory reported a record breaking -25 degrees on the summit over
night. A -90 wind chill was reported this morning. With high temperatures not expected to climb
above zero, and winds in the 50 to 70 mph range, travel above treeline will be HAZARDOUS. BE
ON THE LOOKOUT FOR FROSTBITE AND/OR HYPOTHERMIA.
I was up at the Ravine on May 2,3 skiing in the rain and fog. The skiing, however, was great. While the headwall lower down was OK, just under the cliffs the snow was severely undermined. We skied the 2 gulleys the the Chute. Super snow. The left Gulley still has great snow all the way up and is really the best place left to ski at this point in the season.
Go to it!
I skiied and climbed tucks this past weekend. (April, 18) and it was great. Conditions were spectac. One thing I recomend is going up later in the day after the fog and clowds are burned off. Also on the hike up the ravine I know that I would have liked an ax for stability. Other wise it was great and I recomend that you get your ass up their.
There's more snow in the ravine than there was in late February according
to a climber I met on Friday. ALL the runs are in, except for the Little Headwall
(trying to ski it requires removing skis and only tramples the already stomped vegetation.
Sherburne is good for about 2/3 of the way down. Friday's 11AM temp was 34 in the shade.
Even though the sun came out, the wind kept it cool. Hillman's and Dodge's never softened up much.
The Ravine ranged from carvable crud in the headwall to soupy mush in Right Gully.
The scene on Friday was very mellow. Saturday must have been a panic, with higher winds
and surely huge crowds, but I was too busy shopping in North Conway to notice!
Greeeaaaat to read about the continuuing saga of Tuckermans. Back in 1980 some friends and I began moving out of the ravine into the Dry River drainage. We skiied some scary stuff over there jumping off rock bands and hopping over krumholtz. Some of the same crowd that I skied with also pioneered some of the crazy stuff over in the Great Gulf. Years later I still climb up that Great Gulf Trail across those near vertical rock faces and think that this has actually been skiied!
Hello to all AMC kin! I miss you all. Best wishes for a great spring ski season.
-Mountain Goat Miller AMC TFC 79' - 83'
Hello fellow adventurers! My name is Matt. I'm 23 and have been hiking and skiing Mount Washington for ten years. I've had the best times of my life on the very steep slopes of tuckerman ravine as well as many other skiable chutes and gullies elsewhere on the mountain.On a clear sunny day in April the experience can be very gratifying. Warm weather,soft snow,and a great party atmosphere makes for an epic trip. However, a blizzard or freezing rain and fog so dense you can't see your feet can make for a life struggle you might not win.
Mount Washington is home to the most unpredictable weather in the world. The mountain still holds the world record wind speed at 231 m.p.h and has hurricane force winds two thirds of the year...Or is it only one third of the year? Either way it can be very windy. It is always very important to over pack with clothes when venturing into the ravines and gullies while not carrying a pack that's too heavy.
During the spring is when most people attempt to ski Tuckerman Ravine. (or other surrounding ravines and gullies not so easily reached) The snow gets baked by the sun to a corn perfection.It is important to stay on the sunny side of the bowl; for five minutes of shade will turn the perfect corn into boiler-plate hardpack that is extremely hard to get an edge let alone arrest a fall.
One of the many signs posted aound the mountain is "WATCH FOR FALLING ICE!" It's no joke. When it starts getting warm the ice formed by the many waterfalls loosens and like everything else bound by the force of gravity...it comes screaming down the steep slopes of the ravines. Blocks the size of automobiles usually hit boulders and splinter into thousands of razor sharp projectiles. A very popular place to hang out in Tuckerman ravine is known as "The Lunch Rocks". These rocks (boulders)are situated underneath two large falls so its important to be aware of the danger hanging above. I've seen ice smash into those same rocks at over 100 m.p.h. We were situated on the other side of the ravine yelling "ICE!". No one was injured due to fast action in finding good cover behind large boulders.
Avalanches are common on Mount Washington. Conditions are posted and should be taken seriously. Even the most experienced mountaineer with all the equipment in the world probably wouldn't survive a big slide.
I've seen many dogs get stuck on the steeps of Tuckerman Ravine. They usually have no problem making it up the the bowl. Like many hikers and skiers they sometimes have a much more difficult time on the descent and have to be rescued. For the safety of your pet and the people around please keep your dog supervised near the base of the ravines and gullies.
It's always a good idea to hike up what you intend to ski down.
Undermined snow and crevasses are very common and should be avoided. The melting snow in the springtime creates rivers running underneath the snowpack which cause weak snow areas. It is important to know where these areas are and to fully understand the risk.
This may sound funny but it happens.Just because you have a cell phone doesn't mean you're invincible. Rescues by careless hikers who get over thier head due to their faith in their phone are common.
There is so much fun and excitement to be had on Mount Washington and many find the adventure of a lifetime. However you decide to climb,ski,board,or just enjoy the mountain for all of it's beuties and vastness, please respect the mountain and others who come to enjoy it. Thanks!
Matt D. Moran
HELP!!! I'm 20, an expert skier, and a tuck's "virgin". My college friends and I are planning a trip to Tuck's this season. I just want the short and sweet. Total Hike to the top of the bowl, total ride time down to the bottom, hike down from unskiable terrain(???), and one of the most important things TOOLS. My friends snowboard and I ski, do I need ice picks, crampons, etc. to make the ascent or what. Any tips or tricks would be helpful.
You don't need an ice pick to ascend. IF THERE IS NO ICE.
If you go in the spring, you shouldn't see too much ice, if any. Not many people bring ice picks, I've heard that if you don't know how to use one WELL, don't bother trying with skiies on your back.
Some people have crampons, but I also don't find them necessary. If it's your first time, don't be too aggressive, don't be the first person to hike up. If you're behind people (which most of the time you will be) there will be lovely "stairs" already there. Don't be fooled though, walking up about 50 flights of STEEP stairs with skiis on your back is no easy task.
Bring COLD WEATHER GEAR, as the weather can change very fast. A lovely sunny 60deg day can turn into zero visib. and COLDNESS.
Don't lead, follow. Let the more expierenced lead the way.
hi, woundering if it would'nt be a better idea to place the webcam closer to Hermit Lake, that way people could see the view of the ravine.
for every time i have visited this site, never have i seen a clear view of the submite.probably because of the weather. might as well try.